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May 5, 2015 By NBA Staff

Nevada brothel lobbyist put friendly face on often-reviled industry

(John M. Glionna | Los Angeles Times) – Most lawmakers in this state capital simply call him “Georgie,” a soft-spoken old opinion-swayer with a cane who revels in his political incorrectness.

For half a century, George Flint held court in the hallways of the Legislature here, most lately in the first-floor coffee shop, at the round table nearest the elevators, so he didn’t have to walk too far on his gimpy left leg and two replaced hips.

Flint is Carson City’s oldest working political advocate, toiling on behalf of the world’s oldest profession — the lone brothel lobbyist in the only state to sanction legal prostitution.

Even at 81, he had intended to keep working, but a heart attack hit him last month. So now he’s calling it quits to a career of using a folksy, lean-over-the-fence style to advocate the legal pleasures of the flesh.

The subject makes some lawmakers queasy, so it came as a surprise when the speaker of the House visited Flint’s hospital bed with some news.

Forty-one of 53 legislators had signed a proclamation declaring April 12 as “George Flint Day” at the capital, marking his “outstanding and valuable contributions as Nevada’s longest-standing senior lobbyist.” Flint keeps the document by his convalescent hospital bed, where he can continue to absorb the power of the gesture.

“George should be a scholar on how to be a lobbyist,” said Democratic Sen. Mark Manendo, who helped organize the decree. “People just love him, especially the old-timers.”

Most admit that Flint isn’t what you’d expect. He’s a doting great-grandfather who — unlike cigar-chomping Joe Conforte, one of his brothel-owner bosses — never sashayed around town in a $2,000 suit with several slinky women hanging on his arm.

Flint is savvier than that. He collects art, is an amateur expert on Napoleon and has traveled much of the world. But for decades he represented the interests of the 300-odd legal prostitutes working in the state’s 17 brothels, shady hideaways with names like the Love Ranch, Angel’s Ladies and the Cherry Patch II.

Oh, and there’s another thing: Flint is also the son of two preachers, an ordained Pentecostal minister who runs Chapel of the Bells, a quickie wedding salon in downtown Reno. He can lecture on the history of adultery and paraphrases Scripture discussing politicians who avoid him: “In the latter days, men’s hearts will fail them for fear.”

He’s also a keeper of secrets: In the old days, lawmakers who fought him in public later discreetly sought freebie coupons at a brothel just 10 minutes from the Legislature. Flint has also challenged the holy-rollers, insisting Jesus’ best friend was a so-called fallen woman — Mary Magdalene. If a prostitute was good enough for Christ, he reasons, she ought to be good enough for the fine people of Nevada.

At times, it’s also been good enough for Flint: Decades ago, he occasionally visited brothels — not as a lobbyist, but as a client: “I’ve never hidden the fact I’ve tasted that merchandise.”

Mostly, however, Flint was just a good lobbyist. With a well-timed slap on the back, he put a friendly face on an industry many found repulsive. Years ago, the famed Mustang Ranch threw a steak and lobster party for legislators. Three showed up.

He’s also cagey, jokingly advocating a tax on all bedroom sex because, of course, everyone would over report.

Born in San Pedro, Flint spent his youth in Wyoming, where brothels were illegal but accepted. A sportswriter in high school, he later studied theology at the College of the Open Bible in Des Moines.

In 1963, he was a married father of four running a wedding chapel in Reno when he heard about proposed legislation against the wedding industry. He drove to Carson City and persuaded lawmakers to retract the bill. “I made a note: Georgie, you better get involved,” he said. “It was my baptism into lobbying.”

In 1985, some 14 years after prostitution became legal here, he began representing an industry threatened by AIDS, speaking out in support of laws designed to protect sex workers and their clients.

Many members of the Nevada Brothel Assn. attribute their longevity to Flint. “George would challenge commissioners who often didn’t know what they were talking about,” said Joe Richards, who once owned three brothels. “When George is gone, the industry’s going to be history.”

For years, Flint chased a desert mirage: Twelve of Nevada’s 16 counties allow brothels; he wants them welcomed statewide.

That means bringing brothels to Las Vegas, supplying legalized sin to Sin City. Now, the 30,000 to 50,000 illegal sex workers in southern Nevada bring crime and drug use. Making brothels legal, he insists, would put that shadow economy out of business.

Not everyone agrees.

In 2010, when Flint approached Barbara Buckley, then speaker of the Assembly, “She said, ‘George, get the hell out of my office,'” he said. “I told her, ‘I get the hint; I’ll come back later.'”

Later, when he made his case to former Clark County Sheriff Doug Gillespie, the lawman cut him off. The lobbyist recalled: “He said: ‘Flint, you don’t need to explain anything to me. But let me tell you something: Keep your [butt] out of Clark County.'”

Buckley recalls that she liked Flint far more than his industry. “He’s a character. He cared about his work,” she said. In a meeting to discuss a proposed state tax on brothels, Flint went on the offensive. “Oh, the puns,” Buckley recalled. “He said, ‘What would you tax — this or that?’ I never want to relive that again.”

These days, Flint knows that troubled times lie ahead: Thanks to Craigslist and burgeoning sex-for-sale websites, legal prostitution is imperiled in Nevada.

Of the state’s remaining brothels, only a handful make a profit, he said. His budget for political contributions has dropped from $100,000 annually to $20,000.

And he senses a shift in public attitudes too. This year, 17 freshman lawmakers bring a new generation with modern ideas. Sighed Flint: “Another anti-brothel movement can’t be far off.”

But the one-man brothel lobbyist has a successor in mind: his own daughter, Margaret, who currently advocates for animal rights. Trouble is, she doesn’t want the job. “I don’t have a passion for brothel workers,” she said. “That’s my dad.”

Flint will miss the fine art of brothel opinion-swaying: “My heart is there. It’s hard to give up.”

This article was published in the Los Angeles Times on May 5, 2015

Filed Under: In the News

August 14, 2014 By NBA Staff

Reid calls legislators ‘cowards’ over prostitution

(Laura Myers | Las Vegas Review-Journal) – Harry Reid is no prude.

The U.S. senator likes to tell the story of growing up in dusty Searchlight where prostitutes were as common as Joshua trees.

“The No. 1 industry when I grew up during the war was not mining. The No. 1 industry was prostitution,” Reid, D-Nev., said the other day, recalling that at one point Searchlight had 13 legal brothels.

His mother took in laundry from the brothels, he said.

Reid, 74, told the story on Thursday during the monthly luncheon of the Asian Chamber of Commerce at the Gold Coast off the Strip.

The Senate majority leader didn’t bring up the topic. Instead, he was asked by a member of the audience what ever happened to his call for the Nevada Legislature to outlaw prostitution in the state. Now, it’s legal in eight rural counties and not in those that are big population centers such as Clark County and Washoe County.

In 2011, Reid said in a speech to the Legislature it’s time for Nevadans to have “an adult conversation” about ending prostitution because legal brothels hurt the state’s reputation.

He argued that businesses seeking to move to the Silver State are sometimes reluctant because of its legal prostitution (not to mention gambling and a poor education system.)

Reid said last week he still feels the same way, but Nevada lawmakers seem reluctant to broach the idea.

“I believe it has hindered economic development in the state,” Reid told the chamber.

So why does he think lawmakers didn’t act on his advice? Reid didn’t mince words.

“The Legislature, they’re all a bunch of cowards,” Reid said. “They were afraid to do anything about it.”

At the time, most lawmakers said they were dealing with a major budget crisis and didn’t have time to spend on debating whether to outlaw prostitution. Others said it’s a local issue for each of Nevada’s 17 counties to determine — a position Republican Gov. Brian Sandoval took, saying, “It’s up to the counties to decide if they want it or not.”

Three years later, there’s no indication lawmakers are moving to close legal brothels any time soon.

Filed Under: In the News

December 21, 2012 By NBA Staff

Brothel lobbyist on quest for ‘great white whale’: legal prostitution in Vegas

(David McGrath Schwartz | Las Vegas Sun) — The brothel lobbyist always rings twice, George Flint explained as he shambled up the walkway to the Sagebrush Ranch, a scattering of bawdy houses in a cul-de-sac just 10 minutes from the Legislature.

That way, the working girls know they don’t have to line up to primp for a paying customer.

Inside, the small brothel is Nevada casino dark, tinged with red lighting. During Flint’s visit on a recent Wednesday afternoon, girls napped on couches and armchairs. One curled up under a red blanket. Another dangled her feet, in platform stiletto heels, over the arm of a chair.

The brothel’s public room was empty of other men. Flint, 78, propped himself on a stool at the bar. A brunette and a blonde — Trinity and Star — sat beside him, taking advantage of a lull in business to sip sodas and watch true crime mysteries on television.

Flint pulled out his business cards. He has two sets.

One is for his job as brothel lobbyist: “Your insurance against the Legislature,” he told the girls.

They nodded politely.

“Thank you,” Trinity said, sticking out her hand for an awkward handshake.

His second business card seems incongruous with his first.

“And if you get married,” he said, handing them a card for his wedding chapel business.

Yes, Flint is also a minister.

“Oh! I just got engaged,” said Star, her face brightening.

Flint is entering his 28th year as a uniquely Nevada political fixture: brothel lobbyist, wedding chapel owner, self-proclaimed mayor of the coffee shop at the Legislature and, perhaps most importantly, keeper of secrets.

If Dennis Hof, the flamboyant owner of the Bunny Ranch and star of the HBO series “Cathouse,” is the brothel industry’s public face, Flint is its political girth, an accepted part of the Nevada legislative machine.

Since the first Nevada “house of ill fame,” as they’re sometimes referred to in state law, was licensed in 1971, brothels have operated in low-slung “ranches” near industrial sites where wild mustangs graze. The businesses are residue of the state’s libertarian mining camp ethos.

Flint — who wears glasses with lenses the size of baseballs and walks with a heavy limp caused by a 1975 car crash after a night of celebrating a legislative victory — is the man who represents them at the Legislature.

Since becoming the industry’s lobbyist in 1985, he has cultivated a low profile for the industry and himself. He doesn’t walk around the Legislature with women on his arms. He rarely agrees to profiles. He believes a portion of the state will never be swayed by the legal industry’s argument.

“You don’t want to rub this business too much in people’s faces,” Flint said.

He then borrowed a line from former Speaker Joe Dini, a Democrat whose district was home to more than one brothel and who for years helped stop efforts to ban them: “Or as Dini liked to say, ‘Lie low in the brush.’”

But for an industry that is only one bill away from annihilation, Flint has big plans — he hears the footsteps of time, and this might be his last session.

He’s planning to take a run at the grandest date of all, the holy grail and great white whale of the brothel industry rolled into one: convincing lawmakers to allow legal prostitution in Clark County and Las Vegas.

Technically, it’s a simple fix: Eliminate a state law that says only counties with fewer than 700,000 people can issue work cards to prostitutes and brothel owners. Then, the Clark County Commission would have to allow it.

But Flint is inclined to make a more specific, major push in Clark County, the specifics of which he’s not ready to talk about yet.

Politically, though, it’s a massive effort, and Flint is working it both at the state and county levels.

While talking with a reporter in Carson City, Flint answered his ringing cellphone and offered a glimpse into the argument he’s making to policymakers.

“Tom, we’re talking a huge amount of money here, and no one is getting any of it. … We’re talking three locations to start with. … He’s a good Baptist boy, but you have to get him to understand — it’s happening anyway. We’re not changing anything. We’re taking the stink out of it.”

Tom, in this case, is Clark County Commissioner Tom Collins.

In an interview later, Collins would say he was open to the idea of talking about legalizing and regulating prostitution in Clark County.

“Does anyone think it’s not happening here?” Collins said the day after a prominent Las Vegas limousine company was indicted, in part, for operating as an illegal prostitution ring.

‘He could own this state’

Flint’s job as a lobbyist is traditional in many ways.

He wanders the halls at the Legislature, chatting up lawmakers and other lobbyists in the hallways and holding court at the small dining commons in the middle of the first floor.

He testifies at committee hearings and has been known to doze off once or twice, along with the best of them, while waiting for his turn at the microphone.

And he hands out campaign checks to candidates — only one of which was returned this year, Flint said proudly.

But by virtue of the industry he lobbies for, Flint also logs some fairly nontraditional duties — offering tours of Nevada’s houses of ill fame to gawking lawmakers and even handing out “freebie” visits to legislators with the women who work there.

But things may be changing.

The days when lawmakers would ask for passes to the brothels from Flint have quieted. For the first time, there were no requests last session, Flint said.

Flint acknowledged he’d passed out a fair number of coupons to elected officials in his day.

“I know enough to embarrass an awful lot of them, but I would never do it,” he said.

(One of Flint’s colleagues in the lobbying core once said, “I could own this state if I knew half of what he does.”)

Over the years, Flint has seen the industry change. He’s watched, sometimes uncomfortably, as it climbed slowly out of those obscure bushes in the state’s remote counties and onto cable television.

There’s Hof, outspoken and master of free publicity. Flint bristled at Hof’s high profile, worried that the media attention would bring an effort to ban the legal industry.

Lance Gilman, another brothel owner, was just elected to the Storey County Commission, bringing a new round of oh-my-gosh national media stories about the only state in the country where prostitution is legal.

“Maybe this is a door opener; it allows a little more visibility of the industry,” Flint said. “We have nothing to be ashamed of and a lot to be proud of, in fact.”

Flint’s reality: Men pay for sex

Amid all of the moral and ethical issues surrounding prostitution, Flint’s reality is that men pay for sex. They’ve been doing so for thousands of years, and they’re still doing it today.

Google “escort services.” Do those women just enjoy conversation? Look at the pretty girl, by herself, slowly playing video poker at the casino bar, eager to chat up a middle-aged tourist. Look at the smut peddlers on the Strip, passing out girls-direct-to-your-room cards.

Look at how Las Vegas has marketed itself to the world: “What happens here, stays here.”

A handbiller outside the Flamingo just north of Flamingo Road on the Strip passes out cards for an escort service in May 2010.

“What do you think they’re talking about?” Flint asks, incredulous, as if having to explain how you know the world is round. “Losing money at the tables?”

To Flint, the rest of the country — even Las Vegas — is living in denial. They’ve been playing with prohibition, decades after it proved it didn’t work with alcohol.

Meanwhile, that naive approach has pushed the sex-for-money economy into the shadows.

Underaged girls are trafficked. Pimps beat up women. Sexually transmitted diseases and HIV are spread. Money changes hands — $7 billion a year in Las Vegas, Flint estimates — to criminals as part of a dark economy.

On prostitution, in Flint’s view, it’s a binary choice: illegal and dangerous or regulated and safe.

From the pulpit to the brothel

It wasn’t actually prostitution that first landed Flint in the Legislature. It was his job as a minister and wedding chapel owner.

Flint was born April 12, 1934, in Southern California, in the harbor city of San Pedro. His parents were both preachers, ministering particularly to the Southern California Japanese-American community. When the United States shipped off the Japanese-Americans to internment camps in Wyoming during World War II, his parents moved with them to minister. Flint was in the fifth grade.

Back then, there were brothels all over Wyoming, Flint said, maybe not legal, but tolerated and accepted. They were, Flint said, as prolific as Safeway stores.

Flint was a sportswriter for his high school newspaper and would travel around the region with the football and boys’ basketball teams. Brothels were sometimes stops on those trips.

“I don’t know why, but I just accepted it as part of the life experience,” he said.

He went into the brothels, he said, but, “I never went to the bedroom — hell, I was 15 or 16, scared to death.”

The owners of one brothel, the Yellow Hotel, would come into his dad’s photo shop — his parents couldn’t afford to live on the modest salary the congregation paid — when they lived in Lusk.

“My father had a terrible distaste for them because they were in prostitution,” Flint said. “My father also hated Harry Truman, and that’s what made me a Democrat.”

But to Flint, the owners of the brothel, which he’d buy as a hotel years later, were “lovely people. Good businesspeople.”

Flint’s mother, Grace Flint, was much more understanding.

“She was elastic, middle of the road. … She was much more tolerant of human frailties than my father was,” he said.

After high school, Flint went to the College of the Open Bible in Des Moines, Iowa, where he studied theology for three years. He doesn’t know why he did it.

“I was never motivated to go into the ministry,” he said.

He ended up moving to Eugene, Ore. (Last month, the biblical school Flint attended for three years, now known as New Hope Christian College, wrote an article praising Flint for sending weekly checks to support the Grace Flint Memorial Library, totaling $100,000. The article didn’t mention his day job.)

In 1961, married with four young kids, Flint visited his sister, who worked in a wedding chapel in Reno. They performed seven weddings in one day, and he saw a business.

In the spring of 1962, he moved his family to Reno. With $1,600 borrowed from two banks, he started his own chapel.

At that time, every other state but Nevada required either a waiting period before couples got married or a blood test. Nevada required neither, and Reno and Las Vegas were ready-made cheap honeymoon towns.

Flint rented an old Victorian house in Reno and opened the Chapel of the Bells.

Reading the newspaper during the 1963 legislative session, he started to get a bug.

“It looked to me like we were on rocky ground,” he said of the chapel business. “We weren’t respected. The attitude was that we married runaway kids.”

The evangelicals and the Catholics wanted the quickie-marriage industry gone.

His first legislative war came in 1967, when Nevada’s church leadership tried to squash the wedding chapel business — which they regarded as irreverent competition, Flint said.

To do it, Nevada church officials fronted a bill in the state Senate that would have declared couples married as soon as they picked up a marriage license — a move that would have essentially killed the quickie wedding chapel business.

Local pastors came up and testified their support.

Then it was Flint’s turn.

Unbeknownst to the local pastors, Flint had called church officials at their out-of-state headquarters, including the Methodist, Catholic and Assembly of God leadership.

When he took the microphone, Flint explained to lawmakers that the national church leaders thought the idea of marriage via certificate was “very unorthodox, very nontraditional.”

In fact, he got the national leadership to say “that was the dumbest thing they ever heard of.” And he got them on tape.

“It was a good bloodletting,” he said.

Church leadership, after talking to the local pastors, claimed they were duped.

“I wasn’t 100 percent honest,” Flint said. “I didn’t tell them I was with a chapel.”

He was scolded by the lawmakers for his tactics, but the bill was dead. The industry was protected.

Since then, Flint says, he has pretty well rewritten most of Nevada’s wedding laws, including taking justices of the peace out of the business.

The great white whale

In 1985, Flint received a message at the Legislature that led to his role as both wedding chapel minister and brothel lobbyist.

A pair of brothel owners called him out to the Kit Kat Ranch, east of Carson City — in the same complex as the Sagebrush Ranch — for a meeting.

“There’s a new disease out there, called AIDS,” Flint remembers them saying. “A movie star, Rock Hudson, has it.” And, they worried, “it could be the downfall of the industry.”

They needed help keeping state lawmakers from trying to shut them down.

Before taking the job, Flint wanted to make sure Joe Conforte, the most prominent brothel owner in town, was on board. Conforte, now living on the lam in Brazil from the federal government on tax charges, would become a close friend. Then Flint talked with Dini, a Democrat and leader of the Assembly.

Dini blew up.

“‘The last thing we need is a brothel lobbyist running up and down the hall,’” Flint recalled Dini shouting.

Flint took the job anyway.

Since then, he’s not only fought off efforts to abolish legal prostitution, but tried to further weave the industry into the state’s economic fabric.

At least twice, he’s unsuccessfully worked to pass a state tax on prostitution, believing that lawmakers would never kill an industry on which it depended for money. Efforts in 2003 and 2009 failed because lawmakers felt the issue had become too big of a distraction for a relatively small amount of money.

But in the 2013 Legislature, which starts in February, Flint said he’s going to make a run at more sweeping legislation.

He said he has two lawmakers in the Assembly — whom he would not name — interested in “addressing the problem” of illegal prostitution in Clark County, by legalizing and regulating the industry.

First, the lawmakers want a survey of voters in Clark County, from a respected pollster, to measure voters’ opinions on the subject.

“I have to be very cautious,” Flint said. “Our intention over the next two months is to do a poll, stir up enough support in leadership, to at least take a shot at the issue.”

Flint also said this might be his last session.

“I’m dedicated to doing it in my lifetime,” he said. “I feel the lack of legalization and regulation in Clark County creates a huge amount of crime that needs to be addressed.”

Plus, he estimated, it could bring in $300 million to $400 million in taxes for the county, city or state, every two years.

While the proceeds from a sex act are now split 50-50 between the house and the working girl, Flint said he would propose a 40-40-20 split, with the government taking the low end.

But to do it, he’ll have to overcome the state’s biggest industry: the casinos. Virginia Valentine, president of the Nevada Resort Association, which lobbies for most of the major casinos, said in a statement: “We do not condone the conduct of any illegal activity … and would not support legalization” in Clark County.

Billy Vassiliadis, a top lobbyist and marketer in Las Vegas — but not speaking on behalf of the Nevada Resort Association, in this case — said legalizing prostitution would damage the prestige of the Strip, where some of the highest-class resorts in the world have been built.

“It is not consistent with what business travelers, convention delegates want,” he said.

Guy Rocha, a state historian who has studied the legal brothel industry, said Flint’s quest was a long shot. No longer does Nevada lead the way in libertarian trailblazing, as it did with divorce, boxing, gambling and the marriage industry. Instead, other states have taken the lead on issues like legalized marijuana and gay marriage. Nevada, with its corporate-owned casinos, is more cautious.

“Prohibition on sex for sale has failed, is a failure and will continue to be a failure,” he said.

It’s just, “the state’s not ready for George Flint yet.”

‘It’s not totally not normal’

Flint admits his dual role as minister and brothel lobbyist is “incongruous.”

“It was never planned,” he said.

But he likes to bring up the Bible in defending the brothel industry.

“People say, ‘How can you, of all people, represent that industry?’” he said.

Here he taps a reporter on the leg to emphasize the point.

“Who was Jesus’ best friend? I think it was Mary Magdalene,” he said.

Flint said the brothel industry “deserves the best protection and guidance and help just like any other industry. Just as an attorney would.”

His second wife, Betty — to whom he has been married 44 years — and children are fine with his brothel lobbying, though he admits his wife sometimes gets irked when he shows friendship to some of the girls.

Flint said he believes in monogamy and the sanctity of marriage. He’s just realistic.

Has he ever been to a brothel? Of course, Flint said. He went out with a reporter the other day. Here’s what you really want to know: “If you’re asking if I’ve been to the bedroom? Yeah. I have.”

Between his first and second marriages, in the 1960s, “I reached out for the solace and warmth of professionals,” he said. “I haven’t been to a bedroom in 30 years, maybe longer. When you get to be close to 80, your needs are different.”

Years ago, at a forum, a woman accosted him.

“Are you that George Flint?” she asked.

“Yes,” he said.

“That … Mustang Ranch is a constant threat to my marriage,” she told him, inserting a profanity before the name of the establishment.

“Hold on a minute, lady,” Flint said, before giving her advice. “Listen carefully. Go down to Walden Books and buy ‘Joy of Sex.’”

Every night, he told her, take turns with your husband reading a few pages of the book out loud. Talk about your sexual desires, your sexual fears, your sexual inadequacies.

“Do that, and you’ll never, ever have to worry about the Mustang Ranch,” he said.

His point? By following Flint’s recommendation, the husband would never even consider going to a hooker.

He repeated some advice he gives during the marriage ceremonies he performs: “Never quit listening to each other’s wants and needs.”

But would Flint want one of his family members working in the brothel business?

“I had one daughter who died in her late 40s of alcoholism. A lot of times, I think she’d have been better off at the Mustang Ranch,” he said, getting quiet.

There are a lot of people living on the edge of society, he said. He wouldn’t talk about it anymore.

Flint revels in telling real-life “Pretty Woman” stories, about the prostitutes who’ve made it out — used sex work to bank cash so they could get an education, become a nurse or get a doctorate, or met a husband through work.

But they don’t all end up that way. One of the women Flint introduced during an interview with the Sun has been working as a prostitute for two decades. She is now 50 years old and admitted she needed to find a new line of work. But what?

Flint could sense a reporter’s uneasiness with the profession.

But he justifies his quest for the spread of legalized prostitution with the knowledge that it is happening, regulated or not.

“All day today, nothing I’ve told you — I’m not going to tell you this is totally normal,” he said finally. “But don’t think it’s totally not normal either.”

This article was originally published in the Las Vegas Sun on December 21, 2012

Filed Under: In the News

February 22, 2011 By NBA Staff

Harry Reid: ‘The time has come for us to outlaw prostitution’

(Anjeanette Damon, David McGrath Schwartz, Cy Ryan | Las Vegas Sun) – Sen. Harry Reid on Tuesday called for “an adult conversation” about prostitution in Nevada, saying it is an impediment to economic development because it discourages businesses from moving here.

“Nevada needs to be known as the first place for innovation and investment – not as the last place where prostitution is still legal,” he said in a speech to the Nevada Legislature.

Reid told the assembled lawmakers that he met recently with a group of business leaders who run data centers for technology companies. They visited Storey County in search of a new location for their businesses but “one of the businessmen in that meeting told me he simply couldn’t believe that one of the biggest businesses in the county he was considering for his new home has legal prostitution.”

He said he has talked to families who “don’t want their children to look out of a school bus and see a brothel.”

“We should do everything we can to make sure the world holds Nevada in the same high regard you and I do,” Reid continued. “If we want to attract business to Nevada that puts people back to work, the time has come for us to outlaw prostitution.”

The industry had been warned that Reid would call for an end to legalized prostitution, which is allowed only in the state’s rural counties.

Dennis Hof, a flamboyant brothel owner, arrived at the Legislature about 90 minutes before Reid was scheduled to speak. Hof was accompanied by eight working girls from his brothel outside Carson City.

“Harry Reid will have to pry the cat house keys from my cold dead hands,” he told the media.

Legislative leaders were not pleased at the prospect of the leading Democrat in the U.S. Senate floating legalized prostitution as a key issue for them to confront. Some questioned the timing of his call, coming as the state grapples with a massive budget deficit and record unemployment.

If Reid believes prostitution gives Nevada enough of a black eye that business won’t relocate here, some wondered, why then would he create a circus-like spectacle by mentioning the topic and attracting national attention to it.

While Reid’s remarks were the primary focus of the media and others in attendance, he only spent a few paragraphs on the topic in an eight-page speech.

Reaction to Reid’s remarks was mixed, with most elected officials saying any decision on whether to ban it is best left to the rural counties.

“It’s up to the counties to decide if they want it or not,” Gov. Brian Sandoval said. Asked if he had ever visited a brothel, Sandoval said no.

Lt. Gov. Brian Krolicki, chairman of the state’s economic development commission, said: “I have never been approached by any prospective business or had an inquiry as to that industry. That doesn’t mean it’s not a thought in someone’s business plan going forward. I suspect it would present a challenge to certain individuals bringing in a company but it has never been a topic of conservation.”

“It’s a local government decision. We need to respect the will of the 10 counties that decided the practice should be continued and seven have not,” said Krolicki. He was also asked if he had visited a brothel. Krolicki said no.

Nevada Senate Majority Leader Steven Horsford said, “I personally do not support prostitution, however, it has been handled by local governments in the past and it has been a history and tradition.”

Asked if it should be continued, Horsford said, “With all the other issues this session — the budget and education — it has yet to be determined. I agree with Sen. Reid with his focus on renewal energy and putting Nevadans back to work and those are the priorities of this session.”

Senate Minority Leader Mike McGinness, R-Fallon, said “let the counties decide” whether they want prostitution. “Some counties have put it on the ballot,” he said.

His district includes some of the rural Nevada counties that have brothels. His home county of Churchill has approved brothels, but none have located there so far.

Reid opened his speech Tuesday talking about his time in the Nevada Assembly with future U.S. Sen. Richard Bryan. He also defended the federal stimulus and TARP as successes that prevented further damage to Nevada’s economy.

Filed Under: In the News

April 9, 2009 By NBA Staff

Senate committee kills prostitution tax bill

(Cy Ryan | Las Vegas Sun) – Despite the support of some owners of bordellos, a Senate committee on Thursday defeated a bill to tack a $5 tax on each visit to a prostitute.

By a 4-3 vote, the Senate Taxation Committee rejected Senate Bill 396, which would have imposed the tax and established the office of ombudsman for sex workers.

Sen. Mike Schneider, D-Las Vegas, said he may not support legalize prostitution and Gov. Jim Gibbons “may well veto it.” But Schneider supported imposing the tax.

George Flint, lobbyist for the prostitution industry, said he was disappointed about the outcome. His clients were divided whether to support the tax.

But Flint said the committee gave a fair hearing and he said the brothel owners and three of the prostitutes gave “outstanding presentations.”

Flint said he had a fourth vote at 11 a.m. Thursday “but somebody apparently got to him.” He declined to identify the fourth potential vote.

Sen. Bob Coffin, D-Las Vegas, the main sponsor of the bill, suggested it would raise $4 million a year with the proceeds going to the state. But Schneider said he wanted the money to remain in rural counties where the bordellos are located.

Schneider levied strong criticism at prostitution in Clark County. He said there were 3,000 pimps and 40,000 prostitutes on the Strip: “It’s also a joke.”

He said trucks drive up and down the Strip advertising girls to come to the hotel rooms. “Years ago Clark County voters were against it but we condone it and it’s illegal,” Schneider said.

Sen. Terry Care, D-Las Vegas, said it was “inaccurate to say it’s being condoned.” But he said a losing battle might be being waged.

Coffin, Schneider and Sen. Maurice Washington, R-Sparks, voted for the bill. Opposed were Care and Sens. Mike McGinness, R-Fallon; Maggie Carlton, D-Las Vegas, and Randolph Townsend, R-Reno.

Flint said he was pleased that for the first time since he started representing the industry in 1985 that the industry got a fair hearing and said he was proud of the three senators who voted for the bill.

He estimated the women entertain 400,000 clients a year in the legal bordellos in rural Nevada and that would bring in an annual $2 million. He said the minimum charge now is $100 to $200 at the 25 houses in Nevada.

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April 8, 2009 By NBA Staff

Nevada debates whether to tax its working girls

(Ashley Powers | Los Angeles Times) – With its gleaming Vegas Strip and stucco sprawl, Nevada has portrayed itself as a model of the civilized West. But every so often, such as Tuesday, holdovers from its boisterous beginnings show up at the Capitol — and they are named Chicken Ranch, Pussycat Ranch and Shady Lady.

Here’s Nevada’s dirty little secret: Many lawmakers would like to keep the state’s legal brothels a dirty little secret.

Never mind the Silver State’s history of profiting off taboos or the potential cash a state tax on prostitution could bring. Each time legislators have considered such a tax, they’ve reacted with all the squeamishness of a teenager whose parents want to talk about the birds and the bees.

But with Nevada facing a budget gap as big as $3 billion and potentially huge cuts to education and social services, state Sen. Bob Coffin convened a hearing Tuesday in Carson City to discuss a state tax on prostitution. (Local governments already tax the bordellos.)

If only for an afternoon, legislators were forced to reconcile the Nevada of madams and gunslingers with the Nevada of multinational corporate giants.

“Can we be so proud as to refuse money that is offered from a legal business?” Coffin, a Democrat, asked at the hearing’s outset.

Over the next few hours, brothel owners thanked lawmakers for even letting them in the building. They used the word “respectability.” A lot. Three legal sex workers advocated for the proposal, while prostitution researcher Melissa Farley derided the whole thing as an “act of legislative pimping.”

Through it all, some lawmakers lowered their eyes and squirmed. Democratic Sen. Terry Care made a point to tell the packed hearing room that his silence should not be construed as approval.

“I don’t agree it’s respectable, and I don’t agree it’s acceptable,” he said. “It is legal.”

The brothels, which are banned in the counties that include Reno and Las Vegas, are a mixed blessing for the state. Their mere existence helps Vegas sell itself as Sin City, and the HBO show “Cathouse,” set at the Moonlite BunnyRanch, essentially advertises Nevada’s illicit offerings. But when, for example, Rep. Trent Franks (R-Ariz.) wanted to needle Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.), he mistakenly claimed Reid supported a taxpayer-funded “red light express” train from the BunnyRanch to Disneyland.

The brothel owners’ desire for respectability goes back years.

About a decade ago, said George Flint, the longtime Nevada Brothel Assn. lobbyist, the famed Mustang Ranch threw a steak and lobster party for legislators. Only three showed up.

Though many brothel owners have long supported being taxed — Flint calls it “a wonderful life insurance policy” — they could never wrangle the votes. It probably didn’t help, Flint said, the year he joked that grateful brothels would mount photos of the then-governor on their walls.

“The Nevada Legislature is like an ostrich, and with this they want to stick their head in the sand,” said Eric Herzik, chairman of the political science department at the University of Nevada, Reno.

Coffin’s proposal, Senate Bill 369, would require a $5 tax on a prostitute’s services. The brothel association estimated that, even with business plummeting during the recession, bordellos get about 365,000 patrons a year. The bill would also establish a state ombudsman who would, in part, help steer sex workers to other professions.

The hearing ended without a vote, and the proposal will probably die in the Senate Taxation Committee unless legislators take action this week.

The plan has stirred up all sorts of scorn — and some interesting logic.

Republican Gov. Jim Gibbons told the Las Vegas Review-Journal: “I’m not a supporter of legalizing prostitution in Nevada. So by taxing it, there’s a recognition of the legality of it.”

In the 1970s, Nevada allowed some counties to license brothels, in keeping with its tradition of embracing things, such as prizefighting and gambling, that others branded as sins.

But ever since the neon-signed bordellos were codified, folks have pressed to outlaw them. (In 2004, Churchill County voted for both President George W. Bush and keeping prostitution legal — the latter by a 2-to-1 margin.)

On Tuesday, the hearing often veered into whether brothels were a legitimate enterprise. Flint said it was only the second time in 25 years that his clients had appeared before the Legislature.

“My client is a legal, respectable, licensed industry,” he said, and others tried to convince the panel of the same.

Dennis Hof, owner of the BunnyRanch, said, “We’re the world’s oldest profession, and these are working professionals.”

Deanne Salinger, who works at the BunnyRanch as “Air Force Amy,” said, “If $5-a-person can raise $2 million a year, I’m all for it.”

But Ken Green, who runs the Chicken Ranch, acknowledged that, despite the testimony, the brothel business wasn’t quite like all the rest. He told the committee that should a prostitution tax be passed, he would prefer it show up on a credit card receipt with a more subtle name.

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Suzette Cole, CEO, Moonlite Bunny Ranch

“Prostitution is the oldest profession and will not go away.  Nevada has been doing it right since 1971 when we took it out of the criminal’s hands and put it into a highly-regulated industry.  As an added benefit, there has never been a case of HIV/AIDS in the history of legal brothels here…and you can’t say that about any other profession in the United States.”

John Stossel, Syndicated Columnist

“We don’t have to cheer for prostitution, or think it’s nice, to keep government out of it and let participants make up their own minds.  It’s wrong to ban sex workers’ options just to make ourselves feel better.”

Steve Chapman, Syndicated Columnist

“Prohibition doesn’t eliminate the harms generally associated with prostitution, such as violence, human trafficking and disease. On the contrary, it fosters them by driving the business underground.”

Christina Parreira, UNLV Researcher/Sex Worker

“Sex work is my CHOICE.  I’d like to continue to have the opportunity to make that choice legally.  We don’t need protection. We’re consenting, adult women.”

Washington, DC Councilman David Grosso

“We need to stop arresting people for things that are not really criminal acts. We should arrest someone for assault…but when it’s two adults engaging in a consensual sex act, I don’t see why that should be an arrestable offense”

New York Assemblyman Richard Gottfried

“Trying to stop sex work between consenting adults should not be the business of the criminal justice system.”

U.S. Sen. Cory Booker

“Yes, sex work should be decriminalized.  As a general matter, I don’t believe that we should be criminalizing activity between consenting adults, and especially when doing so causes even more harm for those involved.”

U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders

“I think the idea of legalizing prostitution is something that should be considered…(and) certainly needs to be discussed.”

U.S. Sen. Kamala Harris

“When you’re talking about consenting adults, I think that, yes, we should really consider that we can’t criminalize consensual behavior, as long as no one is being harmed. … We should not be criminalizing women who are engaged in consensual opportunities for employment.”

U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Warren

“I believe humans should have autonomy over their own bodies and they get to make their own decisions. … I am open to decriminalizing sex work. Sex workers, like all workers, deserve autonomy and are particularly vulnerable to physical and financial abuse.”

U.S. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard

“If a consenting adult wants to engage in sex work, that is their right, and it should not be a crime. All people should have autonomy over their bodies and their labor.”

Gov. John Hickenlooper

“Legalizing prostitution and regulating it, so there are norms and protections and we understand more clearly how people are being treated and make sure we prevent abuse, I think it should be really looked at.”

Mike Gravel, former Alaska Senator

“Sex workers are workers, and they deserve the dignity and respect that every worker deserves. For too long, we’ve denied them that. Sex workers, not politicians, should lead the way in crafting sex work policy.”

Prof. Ronald Weitzer, George Washington University:

“Unlike illegal street prostitution in many other places, Nevada’s legal brothels do not disturb public order, create nuisances, or negatively impact local communities in other ways. Instead, they provide needed tax revenue for cash-strapped rural towns.”

Prof. Barbara Brents, UNLV author, “State of Sex”:

“Teams of scholars…have concluded that Nevada’s legal brothels provide a far safer environment for sex workers than the criminalized system in the rest of the United States.”

Prof. Sarah Blithe, UNR author, “Sex and Stigma”:

“Discussions of legal prostitution are rife with misinformation.  Academic work and popular press publications alike often conflate legal prostitution in the United States with illegal prostitution.”

Lee Herz Dixon:

“Do I think eradicating legal prostitution from all Nevada counties will erase the practice of the oldest profession in the state, or break the nexus of drugs, crime, and exploitation of the vulnerable? I do not.”

Journalist Michael Cernovich:

“It’s empirically proven that criminalizing sex work allows children to be sex trafficked more readily as they are afraid to turn to authorities and wonder if they will be arrested.”

Enrique Carmona:

“We need to put aside moralistic prejudices, whether based on religion or an idealistic form of feminism, and figure out what is in the best interests of the sex workers and public interest as well.”

Ruby Rae, professional courtesan

“In the brothels, we have the choice, always, to say which clients we will say yes and no to. We have staff that would never let a man hurt us, and we have a clientele that do not come here to hurt us.”

Kiki Lover, professional courtesan:

“We are human beings who chose to do sex work on our own free will. We get treated with respect and like family at the brothels. It’s a job just like any other job. We sell a service that all humans need.”

Paris Envy, professional courtesan:

“I’m not ‘exploited.’ I’m not ‘trafficked.’ I’m not ‘brainwashed.’ I don’t need to be ‘saved.’ I’ve freely chosen this line of work, which is a legal, private transaction between consenting adults.”

Alice Little, professional courtesan:

“It’s ILLEGAL sex work that exploits children. It’s ILLEGAL sex work that traffics. It’s ILLEGAL sex work that sees women exploited and abused by pimps.”

Jim Shedd, Nevadan

“Prostitution should be licensed, regulated, taxed like any other service industry.  There are many single or widowed men and women who should be able to take advantage of such services provided by consenting adults for consenting adults. Let’s act to at least reduce illegal sex trafficking and other sex crimes by creating safe and legal outlets for paying adults who wish to use them.”

Paul Bourassa, brothel customer:

“Some people are just never given a chance in the dating scene, so brothels offer those of us with no experience a chance to learn what it’s like to be on a date.”

Lewis Dawkins, brothel customer:

“It’s not always about sex. Little compliments and encouragements offered by the ladies help build my self-confidence. It’s a business, yes. But the ladies care personally about their clients. That means a lot.”

Brett Caton, brothel customer:

“I think brothels provide an important function in society. Legal ones give a safe outlet to their customers and for some men it is the only way they get so much as a hug.”

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