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March 13, 2019 By NBA Staff

Hagar: Nevada brothel workers speak out against bill that would outlaw legal prostitution

(Ray Hagar | Nevada Newsmakers) – A proposal to ban legal brothels in rural Nevada by a state senator from Clark County was met with opposition on Nevada Newsmakers last week by two legal sex workers from Lyon County.

“All of us who worked at the ranches are doing it by choice and it is what we want to do doing,” said Ruby Rae, a courtesan from the Bunny Ranch brothel. “We should be able to make that choice by ourselves.”

Yet Sen. Joe Hardy, R-Boulder City, sponsor of the proposal to ban brothels, said Nevada should offer women better choices of employment than prostitution. He said the pleasant picture painted by brothel supporters omits the harsher reality of Nevada’s legal prostitution.

“So the exploitation that happens with prostitution, it is not just a rosy thing,” Hardy said. “There are things happening to women that should not be happening to women. So even though the (legal) prostitution is going on, that woman is many times raped. And we think that it is OK.”

Chuck Muth, president of Citizen Outreach and former campaign manger for deceased brothel kingpin Dennis Hof, said the proposal is another example of urban politicians dictating laws for rural Nevada.

“As we saw with the gun background initiative,16 out of 17 counties voted it down,” Muth said. “But Clark County had enough votes to overrule the rest of the state. So that’s why I think there is a danger here — that the Legislature is so overwhelmingly represented by Washoe County and Clark County — that they could force their will on the rural counties, even if the rural Nevada community doesn’t want it.”

Voters of Lyon County apparently like their brothels. Last November, they overwhelmingly voted down a ballot advisory question that could have ended the county’s brothel ordinances.

“In our county, Lyon County, 80 percent of them (voters) wanted to keep us around,” Rae said. “So I think he (Sen. Hardy) should take note from what the people want and what we women want, too.”

Hardy’s proposal is not the only piece of brothel legislation that could be considered this legislative session. Assemblywoman Leslie Cohen, D-Henderson, has submitted a bill-draft request that would change state laws governing brothels.

In 2011, then U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., urged state lawmakers to ban brothels in a speech before joint houses of the Legislature. The proposal went nowhere. State lawmakers feared a ban would end a lucrative tax source for the counties that allowed brothels.

Hardy’s proposal to ban Nevada’s brothels, although not yet a written bill, would include help or training to transition into other jobs by Nevada’s Department of Economic Training and Rehabilitation. The bill is co-sponsored by Sen. Pat Spearman, D-North Las Vegas.

“One of the things we want to do is allow DETR, the Department of Economic Training and Rehabilitation, to have a role in allowing people to come out of that vocation,” Hardy said.

When asked about women who choose to work in a legal brothel, Hardy said:

“So it is the choice for the women to make a lot of money,” he said. “But in order to do that, they have to, for (lack of) another word, prostitute themselves. And therefore, what is it that I can do personally that I can say, ‘There is hope and you don’t have to do that. You can be free.’

“But that vocation (prostitution), there are a lot of things that go on in that vocation that even the woman who is comfortable in making her choice, is uncomfortable with some things that are happening to her.”

Alice Little, also a Bunny Ranch courtesan, said Hardy’s brothel ban is misdirected.

“I am really shocked and surprised,” Little said. “It is a misdirection of energy and effort. They are trying to say they are here to save and protect us from the brothel industry. But we are not asking for such. You cannot be an advocate for someone without their consent.

“We certainly have not asked them to come forward and take our jobs away from us. Instead, their energy and effort would be much more worthwhile if it was invested in the illegal services and sexual exploitation that is very real and does happen in Vegas.”

There’s no comparison between the legal brothels and the sex trafficking and illegal prostitution found in Las Vegas, Little said. Nevada’s rural sex workers undergo weekly medical testing, FBI background checks and registration with county law enforcement.

“The conflation between sex work — which is a consensual industry — and sex trafficking — in which somebody is forced and coerced to work — are simply two different things and we cannot cross-compare the two,” Little said. “When you talk about the situation happening in Vegas, women walking the streets, I agree wholeheartedly that that is absolutely problematic and something that needs to be addressed.

“In my opinion, the legal brothels prevent trafficking and illegal prostitution from entering Lyon County,” Little added. “We don’t have people walking the streets of Lyon County. There’s no one going up and down Highway 50 trying to offer illegal services. That is not something we experience here in Lyon County and that is because of the brothels.”

Yet Hardy said legal and illegal prostitution overlap each other.

“I think it is a pretty blurred line between legal and illegal (prostitution), quite frankly,” Hardy said. “I still think it takes advantage of women. It puts them in a difficult position.”

Hardy mentioned the long-standing brothel practice of “out dates,” where a customer can take a sex worker out of the brothel for a night on the town, sex included.

“So when you have a place that’s legal, the legal spills over into the illegal,” he said. “I firmly believe that the countenance we give for the legality for the bordello increases the amount of illegal prostitution that happens in the state of Nevada.

“I think Nevada deserves more,” Hardy said. “I think women in Nevada deserve more and that is why I am doing what I am doing.”

Mr. Hagar’s column was originally published in the Reno Gazette-Journal on March 13, 2019

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Suzette Cole, CEO, Moonlite Bunny Ranch

“Prostitution is the oldest profession and will not go away.  Nevada has been doing it right since 1971 when we took it out of the criminal’s hands and put it into a highly-regulated industry.  As an added benefit, there has never been a case of HIV/AIDS in the history of legal brothels here…and you can’t say that about any other profession in the United States.”

John Stossel, Syndicated Columnist

“We don’t have to cheer for prostitution, or think it’s nice, to keep government out of it and let participants make up their own minds.  It’s wrong to ban sex workers’ options just to make ourselves feel better.”

Steve Chapman, Syndicated Columnist

“Prohibition doesn’t eliminate the harms generally associated with prostitution, such as violence, human trafficking and disease. On the contrary, it fosters them by driving the business underground.”

Christina Parreira, UNLV Researcher/Sex Worker

“Sex work is my CHOICE.  I’d like to continue to have the opportunity to make that choice legally.  We don’t need protection. We’re consenting, adult women.”

Washington, DC Councilman David Grosso

“We need to stop arresting people for things that are not really criminal acts. We should arrest someone for assault…but when it’s two adults engaging in a consensual sex act, I don’t see why that should be an arrestable offense”

New York Assemblyman Richard Gottfried

“Trying to stop sex work between consenting adults should not be the business of the criminal justice system.”

U.S. Sen. Cory Booker

“Yes, sex work should be decriminalized.  As a general matter, I don’t believe that we should be criminalizing activity between consenting adults, and especially when doing so causes even more harm for those involved.”

U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders

“I think the idea of legalizing prostitution is something that should be considered…(and) certainly needs to be discussed.”

U.S. Sen. Kamala Harris

“When you’re talking about consenting adults, I think that, yes, we should really consider that we can’t criminalize consensual behavior, as long as no one is being harmed. … We should not be criminalizing women who are engaged in consensual opportunities for employment.”

U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Warren

“I believe humans should have autonomy over their own bodies and they get to make their own decisions. … I am open to decriminalizing sex work. Sex workers, like all workers, deserve autonomy and are particularly vulnerable to physical and financial abuse.”

U.S. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard

“If a consenting adult wants to engage in sex work, that is their right, and it should not be a crime. All people should have autonomy over their bodies and their labor.”

Gov. John Hickenlooper

“Legalizing prostitution and regulating it, so there are norms and protections and we understand more clearly how people are being treated and make sure we prevent abuse, I think it should be really looked at.”

Mike Gravel, former Alaska Senator

“Sex workers are workers, and they deserve the dignity and respect that every worker deserves. For too long, we’ve denied them that. Sex workers, not politicians, should lead the way in crafting sex work policy.”

Prof. Ronald Weitzer, George Washington University:

“Unlike illegal street prostitution in many other places, Nevada’s legal brothels do not disturb public order, create nuisances, or negatively impact local communities in other ways. Instead, they provide needed tax revenue for cash-strapped rural towns.”

Prof. Barbara Brents, UNLV author, “State of Sex”:

“Teams of scholars…have concluded that Nevada’s legal brothels provide a far safer environment for sex workers than the criminalized system in the rest of the United States.”

Prof. Sarah Blithe, UNR author, “Sex and Stigma”:

“Discussions of legal prostitution are rife with misinformation.  Academic work and popular press publications alike often conflate legal prostitution in the United States with illegal prostitution.”

Lee Herz Dixon:

“Do I think eradicating legal prostitution from all Nevada counties will erase the practice of the oldest profession in the state, or break the nexus of drugs, crime, and exploitation of the vulnerable? I do not.”

Journalist Michael Cernovich:

“It’s empirically proven that criminalizing sex work allows children to be sex trafficked more readily as they are afraid to turn to authorities and wonder if they will be arrested.”

Enrique Carmona:

“We need to put aside moralistic prejudices, whether based on religion or an idealistic form of feminism, and figure out what is in the best interests of the sex workers and public interest as well.”

Ruby Rae, professional courtesan

“In the brothels, we have the choice, always, to say which clients we will say yes and no to. We have staff that would never let a man hurt us, and we have a clientele that do not come here to hurt us.”

Kiki Lover, professional courtesan:

“We are human beings who chose to do sex work on our own free will. We get treated with respect and like family at the brothels. It’s a job just like any other job. We sell a service that all humans need.”

Paris Envy, professional courtesan:

“I’m not ‘exploited.’ I’m not ‘trafficked.’ I’m not ‘brainwashed.’ I don’t need to be ‘saved.’ I’ve freely chosen this line of work, which is a legal, private transaction between consenting adults.”

Alice Little, professional courtesan:

“It’s ILLEGAL sex work that exploits children. It’s ILLEGAL sex work that traffics. It’s ILLEGAL sex work that sees women exploited and abused by pimps.”

Jim Shedd, Nevadan

“Prostitution should be licensed, regulated, taxed like any other service industry.  There are many single or widowed men and women who should be able to take advantage of such services provided by consenting adults for consenting adults. Let’s act to at least reduce illegal sex trafficking and other sex crimes by creating safe and legal outlets for paying adults who wish to use them.”

Paul Bourassa, brothel customer:

“Some people are just never given a chance in the dating scene, so brothels offer those of us with no experience a chance to learn what it’s like to be on a date.”

Lewis Dawkins, brothel customer:

“It’s not always about sex. Little compliments and encouragements offered by the ladies help build my self-confidence. It’s a business, yes. But the ladies care personally about their clients. That means a lot.”

Brett Caton, brothel customer:

“I think brothels provide an important function in society. Legal ones give a safe outlet to their customers and for some men it is the only way they get so much as a hug.”

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